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I am considering a motor yacht and the DD sounds and looks right. I need information regarding the movement of the vessel at sea, e.g. stiffness and snapping back into right angle, motion forward and under rolling conditions.

I understand that the DD with sails up can be smooth and it can avoid rough movements in difficult seas.

Any such information would be appreciated.

Thank you.


claudius
 
Location: Channel Islands, Ventura, California | Registered: 01 March 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I was aboard DD462-01 underway in the South China Sea in a variety of sea/swell/wind circumstances. the boat did not exhibit the kinds of "snap-roll" behavior I have experienced on other vessels. the paravanes, sails and/or paravanes with sails smoothed out the boats movement in a beam sea.


Dave and Dorothy Nagle are retired from the Sonoma County Sheriff's Dept.in Northern California, where Dave worked for 30 + years as a peace officer and Dorothy worked 25 as a 911 dispatcher. Their Seahorse Marine DD462 "DavidEllis" is named after their fathers. They have been living aboard full time in SE Asia, the past three years.
 
Registered: 06 September 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Thank you for the reply Dave and Dorothy. What are your thoughts on the swim step design, sedan or regular DD?

What kind of sail arrangement had the DD462-01? Do you think that that was a factor in the behavior at sea of the DD, or any sail arrangement would have had the same effect?

Thank you,


claudius
 
Location: Channel Islands, Ventura, California | Registered: 01 March 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Claudius, I'm the wrong person (at this point) to comment on sail types, one versus another, as my marine backgound is dive boats, patrol boats, surf rescue boats and ocean kayaks. At Bill's suggestion we agreed to move the mast on 462-02 fwd 8' to create a "balanced" rig, and I've been told by one DD customer who is an experienced sailor that this will perform much better.

As for the swim-step, love it. I spent more time on 462-01 in 2005, than in my home in CA and found the swim step to be a functional, versitile element of the boat -- water level entry/exit to dinghy; swimming/diving; saltwater shower / freshwater rinse from hose aft hose bib; storage of fw jugs; trashbag storage etc. I'm looking forward to scuba diving ops off of it from our own boat 462-02 which has a scuba compressor installed.


Dave and Dorothy Nagle are retired from the Sonoma County Sheriff's Dept.in Northern California, where Dave worked for 30 + years as a peace officer and Dorothy worked 25 as a 911 dispatcher. Their Seahorse Marine DD462 "DavidEllis" is named after their fathers. They have been living aboard full time in SE Asia, the past three years.
 
Registered: 06 September 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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How will she perform without stabilizing sails? If I buy a DD, I will opt for the short Radar Mast for inland cruising and Fly bridge for entertaining. I will likely be in the ocean on occasion, so I'm not sure how she will perform without the stabilizing sail.


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Location: Buffalo, New York | Registered: 03 October 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Claudius

I just got off the phone with John Milici, 4623. He was sailing home from Solomons with the sails up and reported fuel savings and a smoother ride. Maybe he will post details later.


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Location: CHINA | Registered: 24 August 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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John and I left Solomans on 46+2 hull 3 Sunday am. headed for Ct. We used the sails and were very impressed with how they operated. The duck seemed to heal slightly- we cut back our rpm greatly and were using about 1 and a half gallons per hour maintaining 7 knots.
While we were coming up the coast of New Jersey, we hear on the VHS " Blue trawler sailing vessel, this is the Coast Guard". Well this is a problem with being such a wonder, even the Coasties are interested. We were boarded and passed the safety test with flying colors. They loved the boat.
John took off some time to go to the Trawlerfest so he is now playing catch up ball but soon he will come up for air and post some very interesting stuff about the "Peking" .
BTW, I was thinking that cooking next to the engine room while underway for long periods of time would be uncomfortable. I was very wrong. the engine is quiet and even when the door was open on those occasions checking the gages- it was not a problem. The vent systems work well. I out did myself with food preparation- It is really not a galley but rather a galley kitchen.
Regards to all.
 
Location: Connecticut until '09 | Registered: 05 May 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Jerie

Did you measure temperature in the engine room with the main or better yet both engines running?
If so what was the ambient temperature at time of reading?

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Robert
 
Registered: 13 December 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Robert,
I didn't measure the temperature of our single engine while we were underway. That is a good idea. I will get a thermometer and let you know.
 
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